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12:27 PM - 03/11/2007

The topic: This really bothers me

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I go to a couple of different forums, most of them cat related in some way.  And every once in a while, people get really hard on someone who doesn’t act the way they feel people should act.

Okay, I admit, I do my share of bandwagon riding.  Recently there was a woman who started posting after her mother died last year.  She’d not posted before, but her mother was an active member of the forums, providing us with much valuable information and she was in her element doing research.  So, mom dies, daughter steps in.  A year later, she’s still got the same problems, she rarely posted in support of anyone else, it as always about her and her problems. At one point, her 13 year old son came on and started posting very rude posts to some of the long time members of the board.  Well, you know what hit the fan.  And hit it did.  Big.  I ended up banning her from my forum and chat room web domain. She denied what her son had done until confronted with irrefutable proof.  Even then, she still denied one of the things he’d done one night to one of the members during a chat.

People finally had enough and started harrassing her every time she posted, in hopes that she’d just leave. There were several ongoing discussions about her in a private forum and some of us asked the ones doing the harrassing to please, don’t respond to her at all, because she loved it. It seemed as if being verbally abused gave her reason to breathe, it was really, really strange. Maybe it was just because it was notice that someone was actually reading what she had to say.  I made it clear to her that I thought she had a problem with seeking attention.

Well, even after someone actually took a poll, where over fifty said they wished she’d never post again, ten or so said they didn’t care one way or the other, they never read what she had to say and four said they found her posts fascinating (and you know she was one of those four), she still couldn’t see that people were tired of her whining.

So, she does the foot stomping I’m leaving I’ll never darken your doorstep (or forum) again thing.  I’m sure many of us have seen the melodrama that is so prevalent on the internet.  And I was very pleased when very few said “good riddance”.  She didn’t leave, though, but her postings have greatly dropped and now, the few times she does post is in response to someone else.

So, yes, I’m guilty.

But.

There’s a time when beating someone repeatedly with your opinion serves no constructive purpose.  Case in point, a couple of days ago, one of the longtime members asked for help advice with one of her cats.  He was bleeding from the mouth.  Her husband is an alcoholic, he’s a mean SOB and he’s in very bad shape and most likely won’t last much longer. He controls the finances, she has no money of her own and has no transportation.  She’s been with him for over fifty years.

Immediately there were cries of “your husband must have done it, you take that cat to the vet right this minute! And you should divorce his sorry ass as soon as you leave the vet’s office!”  It went on and on.  The woman wasn’t asking for advice about her marriage, she knows it’s bad, she knows he’s an asshole.  And she knows, in all probability, that he’s not long for this world.  Emphysema and very little kidney function don’t bode well for a heavy drinker.

So, she’s able to get a closer look into the cat’s mouth and it appears to be a bad molar.  Teeth problems are no fun for anyone.  And if the problem is the tooth, I know my vet (and my dentist) treat the infection before they do any dental work.  They don’t want to get any of the bacteria from the infection into the blood system. Fortunately, she had some clindamycin, the same thing my vet gave me for Lisa, Richie and Handsome when they had dental problems.  She’ll be taking him to the vet tomorrow.

Anyway, these same women are still beating that dead horse.  I don’t see any of them telling her if she leaves him, they’ll support her until she’s on her feet.  I don’t see these women offering to go up to her home, help her move out, help her settle someplace else.  I don’t see anyone offering to take up a collection for a hit man. I see nothing at all constructive in their “advice”.  They aren’t telling her something she doesn’t already know. They aren’t listening to what she’s said.

All I see is a couple of self righteous women, so wrapped up in being right and correct, beating this woman over the head repeatedly with their opinions.

And I wish they’d STFU.

Well, I’m glad I got that off of my chest.

 



Thank you for saying that.

In regards to the cat situation:
When Tuffy had to have his teeth pulled, he was put on Clindamycin too, before they could do anything.

I feel sorry for her, and I do think she should wait the guy out.
She’s suffered too long to just walk away with nothing.

I wish that more people could understand that sometimes no matter how bad things are, you just can’t walk away.  The devil you know is better than the one you don’t.  I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s a reason.

I wonder if the ones on the board who are insistent for action have ever been in her shoes?  I mean, really, really in her shoes?  They might be more understanding if they have been.

Posted by Naf @ Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 3:38:12 PM


I agree with both of you, people need to shut up and just listen more often!  I would like to see the faces of some of these women if this other woman just shows up on their doorstep and said “Okay I am here now you can help me for a while.”  Sad situation, but people have their own paths to walk sometimes we can be of help sometimes not.

Posted by DonnaB @ Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 5:52:27 PM


It has been my experience that people like these women are on a power trip.  They are self-appointed experts on everything and everybody.  The best defense against their nose-up-your-butt meddling is to ignore them.
I’m almost ashamed to admit that one time I got so fed up with a meddler that I totally lost my cool and told her to shove her half-witted opinions up her a**.

Posted by Trudy @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 8:13:11 AM


Amen, sister.  I know I few of these folks on other chatboards.  There are some that are lemmings and I swear they’d follow each other off a cliff and others that are always so annoying.

Posted by Lisa @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 8:26:17 AM

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Well, it just blew up not too long ago.  I just couldn’t hold my fingers.

The cat is at the vet and the problem is dental and they’re taking care of it.  Hopefully, he can come home tonight.

As for the rest, I found out this afternoon that I am “one of the meanest people on the internet”.

Well, it’s nice to excel at something.  *lol*

Posted by lisaviolet @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 5:33:32 PM


LOL, LV…personally I can take or leave internet groups but if I do leave I see no reason to announce as much.
Otherwise I mind my own business, my life is dramatic enough..ha.

Posted by PJ @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 6:41:43 PM


Yeah, you big meanie.  You and your horrible husband are such monsters after you’ve rescued dozens of cats from such fun lives on the streets.

If you are mean because of what you said, you are in good company!

Posted by Lisa @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 7:01:10 PM

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Correction, I’m not one of the “meanest people”, I’ve got one of the “meanest dispositions”.

PJ, I gotta tell ya, I just couldn’t stop myself. I’d had enough of her bullying and I wanted her to back off.  Sometimes being tactful is a wasted effort. From now on, though, “pucker up” will have new meaning to me.

*grin*

Posted by lisaviolet @ Monday, March 12, 2007 - 7:08:03 PM


I was cheering for you actually!  I knew you couldn’t let it contiue without saying something!  Yes, they were being mean and snarky.
No, I don’t post there, and yes, stuff/people like that is why.

Posted by Lia @ Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 1:39:21 PM

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